I swear, this guy is all over the place. I’m very curious as what he will end up

Uh

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-mancy#English

Beam me up, Scotty!

Reminds me of Pizza Tycoon. Or maybe it was Pizza Syndicate?

On a serious note, o/ welcome to the club! :)

Ok, I think I can report now

While disabling it did help some (no freezes when playing solo), once I partied up the problem came back.

I kept the experimental “conserve one thread for system”, lowered all graphics settings, set fps limit, disabled hardware rendering in Steam and I could play whole session in one launch.

When I was getting the freezes, I did not observe some temp going too high in Mango HUD but it seems it might have been some thermal spiking. For these specs the settings should be lowered for playing in a party and disabling steam overlay and steam hardware rendering can help squeeze more out of the hardware

I’ve heard that ht can cause issues on Intel. I’ll check that, thanks

Thanks, but I already have that. It did make things better but I was still getting freezes so far

Oh, I haven’t tried that and AFAIK I’m not even using it. I’ll check, thanks

It’s the experimental one that might be translated to my locale as " limit CPU use"?

This is either a story of a Maria going by as Mina or someone going by as “that bloodthirsty bitch” at work and I really can’t tell which it is

Might still run fine, though

I haven’t been paying attention to GPU market lately, are you actually asking about 9060?

In such case, it seems this is the review you might be looking for

Then it’s not even a year old. The things that see the most movements performance wise are focused on AMD and NVidia. I’m not convinced there will be a huge difference between what he measured then and what you would measure today. If you are comparing that card with a newer one, the latter will probably get better performance. If the difference in performance is worth the difference in price, only you can decide

There is https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-battlemage-linux-may2025/2 but that is not cross-referenced to the other one

My point is, the last time Phoronix did a review on b580, 9600 was not even on the graph yet. When it comes to gaming hardware on Linux, I don’t know of any better place than Phoronix. He does the tests really using a Linux box, really running games (or computing) and sometimes even runs tests again when there is some big release of Mesa etc.
But when trying to decide which generation to buy you most probably have to glue together how the thing you are eyeing compares to the other thing, by comparing both to another one that is present in both comparisons

They experiment and learn

Not everyone. Some just don’t connect the dots and will rather call you and wait for you to come than experiment

How possible is that they will be needing some bleeding edge update of WINE or kernel?

If you think you can expect that they won’t need to do bleeding edge updates, pick something that is easy to use for you and just choose a WM that will be easy for them

My grandma and mom use Manjaro with XFCE. Or rather they use XFCE, I use Manjaro on their PCs ;D. They don’t need to update to, for example, NTSync enabled version ASAP, so it’s fine with me just doing an update during some holidays for grandma and over the phone for mom.
We used to try Mint for their boxes. I was banging my head against it as always with Debian based distros and the effect was that for them the downtimes were longer. Despite our mutual hopes, mom never really got self-sufficient with managing the OS. Even with GUI based package manager. So I just migrated them to Manjaro and now we are all happier. For me the updating is less painful and is faster, for them it just works

But if you would need to educate such user on how to use some package manager to update something, then maybe there might be some differences between GUI package managers that might help you
although

for someone who doesn’t know how to do much more than check their email and log in to Steam

I think it will be you doing the updating in the end

Take a look at Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-b580-graphics-linux/4
I think you are looking at two cards of very different capabilities

EDIT: unless you mean 9060
https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon-rx-9060xt-amd-linux/2

The mood in the screenshots got me interested

Some real gems in there

That’s one way of dealing with running out of hot water