I guess this is based on the idea that iPhones are expensive or exclusive? Or rather, some people think that iPhone owners think they’re elite for having what is actually the most common phone in the US? They haven’t been the most expensive phones on the market for at least 7 years.
Americans flex about the weirdest things.
The most common truck, the most common phone, food from the most ubiquitous fast food joint, having merch from the most popular artists and sports teams.
Those are their biggest flexs.
Yeah buddy, great flex with your Taylor swift hoodie, Starbucks frap, iPhone 12 in your Ford F-150.
Its especially confusing because for many, many years, and even still today, American’s are pushed to be UNIQUE and whenever anyone is UNIQUE then people criticize them for enjoying or doing things outside whatever is ubiquitous for whatever thing. Its ridiculous honestly.
While the lightning cable was ahead of its time when it came out, mostly because the USB consortium couldn’t get its shit together, nowadays it’s woefully inferior.
Having said that, Apple has still managed to fuck their customers over by making so that only their overpriced “high speed” USB-C cables can work at anything better than USB 2.0 standard.
I doubt that 3rd parties won’t try to circumvent Apple’s BS, but goes to show even the EU couldn’t make Apple drop the act entirely.
Edit: And that’s not even talking about the wildly expensive lightning to USB-C converter they’re selling to anybody desperate enough to hold onto their lightning cables
The USB consortium still doesn’t have their shit together, USBC is a garbage standard.
Open a drawer of random USBC cables and tell me which ones support which features, or even which features exist. It’s one connector and a half dozen different standards that support different speeds, data types, power amounts, display support, etc. It’s a nightmare to debug and shop for, and every devices you buy has a different random cable.
The only USBC standard thats good is Thunderbolt because it is always clear what it supports, but Intel owns that standard.
I’m not against phones being USBC, I’m against the stupid standard. Is incredibly annoying and confusing when I ask you for a cable and you give me one that doesn’t support fast charging (USB PD), or one that has usb 2.0 transfer speeds, or doesn’t support “alt mode” to work with my computer monitor.
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2
A group of people thought that was a good name for the protocol. And as you were saying, with no marking to indicate the cable is compatible.
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Apple has still managed to fuck their customers over by making so that only their overpriced “high-speed” USB-C cables can work at anything better than USB 2.0 standard.
Not true. Be mad at Apple for legitimate things please, but manufacturing outrage is just silly and undermines actually shitty things they do. Apple has not nerfed their USB-C cables in any way.
One thing they have done is limit the USB-C PD charging speed in phones to not exceed 20W, which I imagine has more to do with long-term battery life than it does with upselling you, because there’s nothing for them to upsell to you there.
Regarding the adapter, don’t buy it if you don’t need it. As it turns out, many lightning accessories have been sold over the last 11 years. Chances are, someone out there will be happy buying an adapter before buying a new accessory.
Ah, so Apple definitely wouldn’t sell you a 60W USB-C Charge Cable while limiting other cables to 20W?
Nor would Apple ever dream of selling you a cable capable of delivering up to 240W for their phones?
I’m not suggesting that Apple is nerfing their USB-C cables. What I’m telling you is that they’re nerfing their competitor’s cables compatability in order to sell you a solution you wouldn’t need if they weren’t such dicks.
Also, I apologise. The USB 2.0 speed fuckery only applies to the pro series Iphones… the normal series ones are limited to USB 2.0 no matter what cable you use.
As for that lightning adaptor, even if you did need it I wouldn’t recommend buying that one, unless you’re desperate to give Apple even more profits. There are smaller form factor, significantly cheaper converters out there that will do the job just fine.
I can’t believe you just linked laptop charging cables that use USB-C as “proof” Apple is upselling iPhone users hahahaha.
I’m curious, are you just mad because iPhones are listed as “compatible”? Because that’s literally a benefit of moving to USB-C. The cables are compatible because they use the same physical connector. Would you rather Apple arbitrarily restrict which USB-C cable of theirs your iPhone works with? Or are you mad your phone can’t charge as fast as your laptop?
You’re misunderstanding entirely and are blinded by the emotional reaction of what you assume Apple to be doing.
iPhones do NOT exceed a charging rate for 20W, so using a 60W cable isn’t going to do shit. You’re upset because they’re selling USB-C cables capable of charging beyond that number so you assume they’re upselling iPhone owners rather than simply making cables rated to charge their laptops which also have USB-C. Honestly it sounds like you’re angrier at the clusterfuck that is USB-C spec than you are at anything apples done.
How dare they make charging cables for your laptop, right? And how dare your iPhone be limited to charge slower than a laptop. /s
What competitor usb-c cables are being nerfed by Apple? Where are you getting this information? I heard lots of rumors about this prior to the keynote this week, but so far there’s no evidence of this happening. Are you still outraged over a rumor?
The non-pro phones are limited to USB 2 speeds for several reasons:
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They’re re-using parts from the iPhone 14 Pro, which had lightning, which was USB2.
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Most people do not transfer data to/from their phones using a cable anymore. Those that do are usually pros moving large files, and should be getting an iPhone pro for that workload.
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most people who fall into the tiny camp of transferring data to/from their phones with a cable and aren’t pros aren’t transferring large enough files for it to matter much anyway.
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non-pro iPhones will probably be brought up to USB 3 speeds in the next year or two, at which point you’re going to have to find something else to be outraged about.
Nobody is being forced to buy an adapter, why are you still so upset at its existence?
Hadn’t I been on Lemmy I wouldn’t have known there are people still using cables to transfer stuff from/to their phone.
Haven’t done that in 10 years, and deeply hope I’ll never have to start doing that again either.
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Bruh, those are for charging MACBOOKS. You can plug an iphone into that 240w charger all you want, it’s NOT going to use more than the 20w it’s allowed to. Period.
I hate Apple too, but you’re just ignorant.
I remember when they switched from 30 pin to lightning when I was in highschool. It was the best time to be a little shit, whenever someone asked if you had an iphone charger you could ask what kind they need and then say you have neither.
I have always had an Android phone, while my wife has had iPhones. Whenever one of the kids got old enough to get their own phone, they inherited hers and gave her an excuse to get a new iPhone. (Meanwhile I just traded mine in.)
The unintentional result is that she can never find a charging cable or block for her phone because the kids keep taking them (and inevitably somehow breaking them), while I have a surplus of ways to charge my own. And also the kids’ batteries are always low, because they can’t figure out how to ration screen use with an old-ass worn out battery.
So everyone else in the house is always squabbling about who took the charger, while I rarely see my phone dip below 50%. They hate it SO MUCH when I point this out. I swear I try not to smirk when I do.
Good news! With the next generation iPhone, your cables are no longer safe.
Literally it’s just wealth peacocking and classism, that’s it… people who are proud of owning an iphone are gross
Just as gross as people who are proud of not owning an iPhone. It’s a fucking phone, if it’s part of your identity you’re a dork.
honestly, what with all the additional anti privacy and DRM shit google have been adding to phones lately, I’ve been getting less and less enamoured with Android phones. Sure I can sideload, but I can’t install root level apps without jumpling over a number of hoops just to stop other apps from failing Safety net.
I miss the time where all you had to do is install the su binary, then you can do what you want without fear of borking shit.
My current phone has some weird instability issues with Magisk - I can’t install AdAway and systemless hosts or LSPosed in zygisk because for some reason, the moment I try it, it causes the phone to randomly freeze up, which to fix requires a reboot. I missed many alarms due to that happening in the middle of the night while I was asleep. (Which while those modules were installed, would happen almost every night) it’s a pixel 3a, with stock ROM. The only module I have currently installed is Universal Safetynet Fix, which for some reason, only half works (passes basic attestation, but not the CTS profile matching)
There is more expensive and nicer built iPhones if you really care about blowing money, it’s all so stupid.
Also… Who cares? It’s 2023 all phones pretty much do the same shit.
My chat is shown in a different color on their device
With worse contrast
Sounds like an iPhone problem to me, im sure the average iPhone owner will agree (lol)
On android you can change not only the bubble color, but the bubble color for each contact individually, and you can even change the entire messaging app itself to a new one. Takes care of that problem right quick.
How is being a cableless beggar a flex?
