• ikt@aussie.zone
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    1 month ago

    i have noticed that there are two competing narratives in the leftwingosphere:

    A) ai is 100% slop garbage and a giant waste of electricity, pumping out garbage images with multiple hands and the text is nothing but hallucinations that can’t even count the number of r’s in “strawberry”

    and at the same time

    B) AI is going to take all our jobs and we will all be homeless and poor while tech billionaire CEOs turn us into slaves

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      1 month ago

      Can’t say I’ve seen B anywhere. All I’ve seen is “tech billionaire CEOs want LLMs to take all our jobs and turn us into slaves,” not so much belief that they can. Perhaps you’re misinterpreting?

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      1 month ago

      are those competing?

      It’s being rushed to market and is still very inefficient, but part of the reason it’s being rushed to market is because companies are getting ahead of themselves about the opportunity to fire human employees.

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        1 month ago

        companies are getting ahead of themselves about the opportunity to fire human employees

        But then if they produce garbage with AI people will buy the non-garbage product

        Either it produces something of value or it doesn’t, if it’s producing garbage, lowering output, etc then it’s not a threat to our jobs because most people don’t like garbage, if it’s producing genuine value then it will be.

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          Early cars weren’t a threat to streetcars and trains and urban planning but modern cars have reshaped every North American city. You can criticize the inefficiency, poor quality, energy waste, etc. of the technology today while also pointing out the dangers of tomorrow.

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            But cars have always had value, we’re talking under an article that calls AI “magic beans”

            How could magic beans which produce garbage enslave humanity under capitalism? Would you argue that cars which replaced horses as the primary mode of transport in a few years be called this?

            You can argue that AI does some things badly, it’s still very very early on and the progress people are making is insane, like nothing I’ve seen before, but you can’t argue it is worthless and a giant threat to us at the same time, this is contradictory

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              The cars that replaced horses were several iterations in, early “automobile” devices included steam powered carriages that moved slower than walking.

              A technology may start with limited usage while still having lots of potential.

              Technologies are always useless until they’re not.

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      Yeah, I agree that in the long term those two sentiments are inconsistent, but in the short term we have to deal with allegedly misguided layoffs, and worse user experiences, which I think makes both fair to criticise. Maybe firing everyone and using slop AI will make your company go bankrupt in a few years, and that’s great; in the meantime, employees everywhere can rightfully complain about the slop and the jobs.

      But yeah, I don’t think it’s fair to complain about how “inefficient” an early technology is and also call it “magic beans”.

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          @CanadaPlus
          If we step aside from cartoon logic for a second, we can still see manmade crucial tasks and a vast background of sloppy low quality production.

          Not that quality is highly sought after these days anyway.

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            No, it’d be cartoon logic if I said their motorcade should watch out for packs of dynamite and walls painted to look like more road. By contrast, broken stuff not working isn’t a hard case to make.