Nice reference.

Btw Ali G came up nice. As in Sacha wasn’t left to be defined by Ali, went on to become Borat (which was also like the 20 years ago), has done some seriously good drama shows and now is looking like this:

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Misspelled? Letters used to cost money, you know. 160 chars/msg.bst to shrten evrything

Not really. Just look up the some slang words from 2000’s you’ve never heard of but what everyone in my generation would’ve been constantly using.

Ofc some of them are still around, but most aren’t.

Yup

Phrase what’s cooking? “what’s up, what’s going on” is attested by 1942. To cook with gas “do well, act or think correctly” is 1930s jive talk.

The expression “NOW YOU’RE COOKING WITH GAS” has bobbed up again — this time as a front page streamer on the Roper Ranger, and as the banner line in the current advertising series of the Nashville (Tenn.) Gas and Heating Company, cleverly tying gas cooking to local food products and restaurants. “Now you’re cooking with gas” literally took the gas industry by the ears around December 1939 — Remember? — when it flashed forth in brilliant repartee from the radio programs of the Maxwell Coffee Hour, Jack Benny, Chase and Sanborn, Johnson Wax, Bob Hope and sundry others. [American Gas Association Monthly, vol. xxiii, 1941

That’s called being “prescriptive”, and I… was not.

Now it’s just semantics about how much story structure we have.

I’m not saying it’s the “hero’s journey” every time, but if you for instance look at Dan Harmon’s story circle — which is very much based on the monomyth — you’ll see how those apply to pretty much all narrative stories. Not all, but most.

It’s just the form we seem to like or which at least works well enough.

Also saying “we both know that…” online is a bit naive.

Oh, “creative arts”? Like… subjective things? Unlike sports, in which there’s usually an objective scoring system. Wish I had thought about that.

Oh wait I did yes.

it’s not actually that prevalent.

In modern books? Probably not.

But in general? Yah, it is.

Yeah I saw Pocahontas in theaters as well. Loved it. Dad took me. Thanks for unlocking some memories of my late pops. Thanks, for real.

Prolly primed me to like Avatar tbh, or just liked it for the same reasons.

Yes, the similarities are remarkable, but it’s not literally the same story, just mostly similar beats.

But I needn’t remind you that a majority of all stories are more or less the monomyth aka the hero’s journey:

In narratology and comparative mythology, the hero’s quest or hero’s journey, also known as the monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, is victorious in a decisive crisis, and comes home changed or transformed.

Very much applies to Jakesully in this Avatar as well. Ofc there’s much more that matches up with Pocahontas, I’m just pointing out that “true originality” doesn’t exist, we seem to enjoy more or less similar stories/story structures, and the thing people loved in Avatar was the millions they spend imagining a rather complete world with a tad more complexity than Disney’s -95 animated Pocahontas had. Although it waa beautiful as well. But the world building and animation used doesn’t really compare, does it?

I wonder why people don’t make the same argument for sports players. "It’s just [previous champion] who looks different. Yeah it’s totally different but like… is it totally different? Yes, it is, one is subjective one is objective. This comparison blows.

Food? We invented putting things on bread and have been doing variations of it since. All pretty similar, but also, a million different types. Bread and some filling / topping.

Anyway yeah the first movie is more or less Pocahontas. But like. I don’t see how that matters. It does explain why the second sucked in comparison though. Doing something that has been already established to work but improving on it is the thing.

I only hope they go back from Jakesully family man to at least some semblance of heroes journey in the third. Maybe it’ll be one of his kids idk.

Anyway No spoilers for 3 guys I’m not watching the trailer or reading anything

If you were late teens / early 20’s or older when it first came out, I don’t think it that weird.

It was bloody amazing. And then we’ve just all been waiting for it until the sequels, which are just now starting to roll in. The second one was a bit of a disappointment (bro) in my opinion, but I’m hoping the third one will be a positive surprise.

Basically I went to watch it for nostalgia, as I think a lot did.

AAA-game? Aren’t there like lots of Avatar games?

Yeah, 2009 there was one, online shut down for it in 2014.

Guess you’re talking about “the frontiers of Pandora” from 2023?

There’s also “Pandora rising” from 2020.

The sequels were always in the works. The first movie was an experience and now people are just chasing that high again.

Hell, there’s still tons of people waiting on the continuation on what happens to Jon Snow in the books after he’s stabbed. That’s still in the works with George, hopefully. Since like 2011.

Dad got it on VHS from a service that was sort of the Netflix of the time. (Not Netflix though, although the company prolly got the idea from Netflix. Original Netflix began in 97 but in Finland Netflix started operating in 2012, with streaming.)

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So you just refuse to believe in science. Alright. You do you.

Subtitles may well improve literacy, but I would expect that fostering the same love of reading that everyone else in my family has is probably better.

“This scientific effect may well be true, but I’m ignoring it!”

You’re taking this extremely personally for some reason. You clearly said you “detest subtitles”. So you’re not gonna use them, even if there was science saying that they will help?

Why do you think using subtitles would subtract from “fostering the same love of books everyone in my family has”?

I’m not presuming anything. You literally said “I detest subtitles”.

You’re gonna not use them even if they helped your children to learn how to read and even after they know how to read, improved their literacy?

Are you gonna offer either subtitled TV or foster a love of reading in them without showing them any tv? Because if you’re gonna “foster some love of books” in them anyway, but that they are going to still use TV. Then why not add the benefit that using subs have scientifically been shown to have by putting them on? Because you “detest” reading while watching a movie more than a you do having your kids learn?

Almost as if I’m a compulsive reader!

I have never met a person who has said “I couldn’t see the movie/show from all that reading I had to do”. And in the movies there’s subtitles in two different languages, while a third one is being spoken. (Officially bilingual country and city so all shows at the theatre have both Finnish and Swedish subs.)

I’m not presuming anything. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the “visual medium”. You’re just not used to reading, clearly, meaning you’re probably not a big reader.

I’m from a country which prefers subs over dubs, and my personal experience (and studies such as the one Stephen is talking about) has shown that keeping subtitles on will improve literacy.

You say you have a newborn. So I thought it would be a good time to suggest that maybe you should try getting used to subtitles, because if you do, then you can keep them on by default and increase your child’s (and anyone else watching) literacy, just by doing that.

No-one is saying you should do this thing or that thing. Studies are showing that literacy improves if you use subtitles. That’s it. End of story. Not even a suggestion as to what you should do or how you should value literacy as a skill.

You do you man.

The only subs that really bother me are hardcoded asian subs with a hard black background, taking like a third of the screen and I don’t even understand the text. But then I just delete that version of whatever it was and find a new one. So I do understand personal preference and wanting to not have needless things you aren’t used to.

You make you own choices, I can’t, or rather won’t make suggestions. Not my place. But I can say what I think is factual. Like “using subs improves literacy”.

My brain can’t opt out of reading them.

Neither can your kids. And that’s a good thing. Not much into reading, are you?

Stephen Fry talks about turning on the subtitles

I don’t think that though.

I’m just pointing out how the Finnish bit is by accident, most likely.

Although there are a few game designers who do seem to be fascinated with Finnish things. One in league at least.

Edit the point is that English is the medium that were using and Japanese was an inspiration and the name being similar to a Finnish word a coincidence. So like. Different things. Clearly English has the bigger role, but that’s not what I’m posting about.

Oh.

I’m getting out of touch old.

My bad

English, W is an upside down M.

Well yes, because he’s the opposite. But I don’t think English gets to take part just because of one letter. Apologies. I mean, that letter defines what can be used as opposites, but… like… no.

Sorry.

Edit im out of touch old

I’m saying he is Mario’s shadow.