This pedantry is ridiculous, wrong, and annoying. The Han ethnic group that was in a relatively small patch of land ~4,000 years ago is hardly the same thing as the contemporary Westphalian sovereign state known as People’s Republic of China, which formed less than a hundred years ago and comprises many ethnicities.
They would if they could. Imagine China having a powerful air force like the US have. They would dominate every country in the world just like the US is doing. The US puts almost all their money into high tech weaponry as well.
The US is going after the middle east to get oil and to establish military bases for future domination. Has nothing to do with liberation or democracy.
Argument: your US chauvinism is unjustified and you should probably justify it. Otherwise, you’re wasting everyone’s time with an undeserved smug attitude
Sure I work all my life to pay rent and the cops can murder me at any time for no reason and get away with it, but have you considered China worse somehow?
username checks out. The US is not the lesser evil. Its the greatest evil in the world. If Satan were at war with the US, i would support Satan because the US is the Greater Satan.
Disagree on that they are the most evil, but yes they are also evil. China, Russia, US… They are all evil. But the US seems like the lesser evil to me.
Fucking hell. This isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact that the US is the enemy of the world. The US funds coups, destabilize, install military dictatorships, invades and bombs countries and it’s the only country in the world to drop a nuclear bomb on people, and THEY DID IT TWICE.
Stop making “wHaT iFs” in your head and actually look at the reality of what China does. It’s not even comparable.
You are not wrong. I agree they do all these things. And I don’t know what China does. I live outside of a China naturally, and I don’t know anything about what’s going on inside. We hear scary stories of course, and the leader of the country seems insane by western standards at least. I don’t think China cares about human rights very much. And I would not be surprised if people gets killed and made to disappear if they are inconvenient.
But honestly, I don’t know anything. I’m not there. I haven’t seen with my own eyes anything.
That’s the thing, you identified an issue, we constantly hear bad and scary stuff about China all the time, that’s western propaganda trying to turn China into the enemy so whatever the west, mainly the US, wants to do, becomes justifiable.
You don’t need to live there to know, at least partiatly, the reality of what goes on in the country nor it’s international relations. I’m not from the US, but I do know all those things I just cited in my last comment. All you need are good sources. You can start by studying how China handles its international relations. You’ll quickly realize that China doesn’t threat, embargo or invade other countries.
If you are genuinely interested you can learn a lot by visiting Lemmygrad and Hexbear, there are communities there to ask for information, and as long as you’re wanting to learn, you will be welcomed.
Also, Xi Jinping is not insane at all like the media likes to portray him. The statement is too broad for me to tackle any specific thing, tho.
I don’t think China cares about human rights very much. And I would not be surprised if people gets killed and made to disappear if they are inconvenient.
Again, very broad statement, what human rights and what you mean by this? This probably comes from more propaganda led disinformation.
Also, China is a massive country with 1.4 billion people. Do you really think we wouldn’t have proof of people being repressed, killed and disappearing? The people there aren’t isolated from the internet, they can access beyond the restrictions easily with VPNs which are common, it would be easy to show this stuff to the rest of the world.
Protests happen all the time in China and people critique the government, just like basically any other country.
If you want the perspective of a foreigner living there, I recommend the youtube channel Felipe Durante, he speaks Portuguese but the auto translate on youtube should be good enough, at least for english.
True but without the US, western Europe would belong to Russia or China… That arguably a lot worse.
It’s the lesser of all evils.
How many countries has China invaded?
How can China be of its current size without invading anyone? When it started, it was just a small patch in central Henan area.
This pedantry is ridiculous, wrong, and annoying. The Han ethnic group that was in a relatively small patch of land ~4,000 years ago is hardly the same thing as the contemporary Westphalian sovereign state known as People’s Republic of China, which formed less than a hundred years ago and comprises many ethnicities.
They would if they could. Imagine China having a powerful air force like the US have. They would dominate every country in the world just like the US is doing. The US puts almost all their money into high tech weaponry as well.
The US is going after the middle east to get oil and to establish military bases for future domination. Has nothing to do with liberation or democracy.
“imagine if China invaded the whole world. China doesn’t sound so good now, does it?”
Brilliant
Do you have any actual arguments? So far you are not really contributing to the discussion at all.
Argument: your US chauvinism is unjustified and you should probably justify it. Otherwise, you’re wasting everyone’s time with an undeserved smug attitude
Do you want current regime or it’s history? Because… Lol if you think that number is 0 for either.
Please, do tell. Current government. If you say Tibet I will die of laughter and then link you a very well-sourced and easy to read academic paper.
Would you mind linking that paper so that i can read it?
Happy to, it’s a banger if you’re not familiar
https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/
Sure I work all my life to pay rent and the cops can murder me at any time for no reason and get away with it, but have you considered China worse somehow?
Yeah China seems worse to me.
You should go there. It would change your mind in an instant.
I would just be a tourist. I would of course like the people. People all over the world are quite nice. It’s the governments that are not…
China has a democratic government with far more oversight and participation from their citizens than the US
Based on what? Your hypothetical yellow peril bullshit where they would be worse if they could
Why would China “own” Western Europe. This sounds like a very vibes based analysis
username checks out. The US is not the lesser evil. Its the greatest evil in the world. If Satan were at war with the US, i would support Satan because the US is the Greater Satan.
Disagree on that they are the most evil, but yes they are also evil. China, Russia, US… They are all evil. But the US seems like the lesser evil to me.
Fucking hell. This isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact that the US is the enemy of the world. The US funds coups, destabilize, install military dictatorships, invades and bombs countries and it’s the only country in the world to drop a nuclear bomb on people, and THEY DID IT TWICE.
Stop making “wHaT iFs” in your head and actually look at the reality of what China does. It’s not even comparable.
You are not wrong. I agree they do all these things. And I don’t know what China does. I live outside of a China naturally, and I don’t know anything about what’s going on inside. We hear scary stories of course, and the leader of the country seems insane by western standards at least. I don’t think China cares about human rights very much. And I would not be surprised if people gets killed and made to disappear if they are inconvenient.
But honestly, I don’t know anything. I’m not there. I haven’t seen with my own eyes anything.
That’s the thing, you identified an issue, we constantly hear bad and scary stuff about China all the time, that’s western propaganda trying to turn China into the enemy so whatever the west, mainly the US, wants to do, becomes justifiable.
You don’t need to live there to know, at least partiatly, the reality of what goes on in the country nor it’s international relations. I’m not from the US, but I do know all those things I just cited in my last comment. All you need are good sources. You can start by studying how China handles its international relations. You’ll quickly realize that China doesn’t threat, embargo or invade other countries.
If you are genuinely interested you can learn a lot by visiting Lemmygrad and Hexbear, there are communities there to ask for information, and as long as you’re wanting to learn, you will be welcomed.
Also, Xi Jinping is not insane at all like the media likes to portray him. The statement is too broad for me to tackle any specific thing, tho.
Again, very broad statement, what human rights and what you mean by this? This probably comes from more propaganda led disinformation.
Also, China is a massive country with 1.4 billion people. Do you really think we wouldn’t have proof of people being repressed, killed and disappearing? The people there aren’t isolated from the internet, they can access beyond the restrictions easily with VPNs which are common, it would be easy to show this stuff to the rest of the world.
Protests happen all the time in China and people critique the government, just like basically any other country.
If you want the perspective of a foreigner living there, I recommend the youtube channel Felipe Durante, he speaks Portuguese but the auto translate on youtube should be good enough, at least for english.
Thanks for the long post. I realize there is a lot of propaganda to try and decipher. We live in a world of public appearances and PR. :)