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Zippy@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

I just realized there is absolutely no way to say 'i always lie'.

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I just realized there is absolutely no way to say 'i always lie'.

Zippy@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    On the other hand, anyone who tells you, “I always tell the truth,” is probably lying.

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      when pachino said I always tell the truth even when I lie, though, that was pretty damn honest.

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        *pinocchio

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    “If you were to ask me if I always lie, I would say ‘yes’.”

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      Someone’s been studying the 2 guardians puzzle.

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    You can say the statement. Doesn’t mean the statement is true. You might be a habitual liar and that particular statement is a lie.

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    Unfortunately you are wrong as there is a very distinct way to say the phrase you quoted, that being to utter the words “I always lie.”

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    this statement is false

    • Xylight (Photon dev)@lemmy.xylight.dev
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      I’ll go with true.

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        A fun detail is that all the franken cubes fry and die after hearing the paradox, but Wheatley is still fine.

        • Xylight (Photon dev)@lemmy.xylight.dev
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          Really? I didn’t notice that.

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            I didn’t either till someone mentioned it in a speed running video

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              Was that Msushi? I think I heard that same fact from him.

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                I think so. I’ve been watching a lot of his videos recently, so that’s make sense.

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          Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.

          Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.

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          I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she’s a potatoe doesn’t sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it’s dangerous for ai, even in potatoe form

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            I think she was intelligent enough to temporarily shut down the portions of her brain that would be effected. At least that was my take.

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            I always saw it as her just saying in her mind, “This. Statement. Is. False.” thus just being some four individual one word sentences.

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              That is plausible, but she saw the sign and read the paradoxes on the signboard - surely just seeing the paradoxes written on the sign would have caught her off guard. I guess it doesn’t matter, they just wanted to do a funny moment and it was still good

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        but then it wouldn’t be false

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    “I don’t always lie.” wink

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      “I lie a lot” would also work.

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    Except for this statement, I always lie.

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    i always lie

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    “Starting at the moment this statement ends, I will always lie.”

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      How do I know that wasn’t a lie and that you will occasionally still be telling the truth?

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        You’d just have to trust me.

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    I’m a compulsive liar.

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    Technically you can’t always lie (“always” is the key here) so the statement can’t be true. Besides that you can say the words in that specific order, no problem.

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    “Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.”

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    Not quite. You missed the fact that it doesn’t need to be the entire statement. “I always lie when I say that the sky is green”

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    I’m a habitual liar. close enough 🤷‍♂️

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    Couldn’t you just say that you’re a politician? IMO that would be close enough.

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