New documents filed Monday, February 26 reveal that videogame giant Nintendo is taking action against the creators of the popular emulator tool Yuzu.
The copyright infringement filing, from Nintendo of America, states that the Yuzu tool (from developer Tropic Haze LLC) illegally circumvents the software encryption and copyright protection systems of Nintendo Switch titles, and thus facilitates piracy and infringes copyright under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).
Nintendo alleges that Tropic Haze’s free Yuzu emulator tool unlawfully allows pirated Switch games to be played on PCs and other devices, bypassing Nintendo’s protection measures.
The official Yuzu website suggests that the tool is to be used with software you yourself own: “You are legally required to dump your games from your Nintendo Switch” — but it’s common knowledge, that this is not how these tools are primarily used.
Thanks for the Streisand effect Nintendo. Hadn’t even heard of this until now. Now I’m downloading everything, and I’ll be donating to the devs if possible. And telling my friends to do the same. I will continue not giving you money for over 10 years now.
Eat shit.
I agree with the sentiment and everything, but the whole gaming console industry has gone to crap after they started putting hard drives/storage in them with the goal of needing you to be online and not owning anything anymore. They are all equally despicable for that. Which makes emulation even more essential, just for preserving those games into the future when the online front will inexorably shut down.
I agree with this as well. However, Nintendo is like the Disney of lawsuits for the gaming industry. No one, and I mean NO ONE protects IP like they do.
I can’t boast of your 10-year track record, but my next 10 years started today. I canceled my Nintendo online and I’m selling my switch. Fuck Nintendo
The best time to boycott those pricks was 15 years ago. The next best time is today.
The official Yuzu website suggests that the tool is to be used with software you yourself own: “You are legally required to dump your games from your Nintendo Switch” — but it’s common knowledge, that this is not how these tools are primarily used.
Yeah, so what?
It’s, legally speaking, not Yuzu’s domain to regulate what I can lawfully do within my own home with hardware I bought , or not. It’s not even Nintendon’t’s domain, and they are literally a Yakuza branch.
Yakuza branch? I want to know more, I hate Nintendo.
They should go one step further and ban the programming language as well the emulator was created in. That will show them!
I say we ban technology.
What about a technology permit, so you’re only allowed to develop technologized products if you get a permit from the Ministry of Proprietary Technology.
Great idea comrade, glory to Arstotzka!
Why stop there? Just ban everything that isn’t Nintendo. That’ll give em the old 1-2
I wonder if they’re going after Switch emulators now because the emulation capability is matching the product lifecycle, and that the patreon page makes the Yuzu team legally targetable.
If we’re in for a repeat of GC -> Wii in the sense of the Wii being a more powerful GC, then Yuzu is potentially already close to being able to emulate the next gen Nintendo console out of the gate.
If that is the case, that’s just par for the course when you’re dealing with nearly decade old hardware.
This is why I will never buy a Nintendo console. I’m about to buy a Steam Deck… call me biased.
Download Yuzu now, sideload later. Just in case.
It’s an open source project. It’s always going to be out there. I am gonna go fork the repo just for the hell of it right now.
If Nintendo wins, the Github page and the website page will probably shutdown.
Forking it now is a good idea.
It will be forked to a thousand other platforms, including private git repositories hosted locally. That cat is out of the bag and fortunately there’s not a damn thing they can do about it
The problem is with the development ceasing. The source code will remain, but if there’z no dedicated team developing bugs will not be fixed and features will not be added.
Go with Ryujinx. It’s a bit more accurate and works with a few more titles Yuzu may have issues with.
A lot of Yuzu’s problem was flying too close to the sun with their Patreon as well. Gave Nintendo ammo for a lawsuit there.
You’re biased.
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Don’t mind me if I fork
Don’t fork, they go down if the original goes down. Download and reupload.
Or fork to a different system, e.g. Gogs/Gitea/ForgeJo/GitLab…
Fuck Nintendo
Nintendo makes me want to emulate more and more
Sold my switch years ago, I’m not playing switch games atm but I really can’t stand Nintendo’s policies like this!
What are you playing on? I would play my switch more if the games weren’t so expensive.
Fuck you Nintendo, nobody should give you a dime
Someone sue Nintendo for gatekeeping.
Might as well set the groundwork to make it easier to shut down any emulators for the new console. Can’t have old steam deck and others taking the handheld market
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I don’t have a problem with the tech being old as long as the games are good, but the failure rate of their joycons and pro controllers is abysmal! I got a converter to use a PS5 controller on the Switch and it’s much better!
Cars are used for driving around but some people use it for accidents and drunk driving! Ban cars!
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Nonironically yes
Would your comment be as sarcastic if you replaced cars with guns? Doubt it.
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Eh… Guns are specifically made to kill something or make holes in it, so thats another thing.
And yet cars kill a lot more people than guns.
Not in the United States they don’t.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/116-people-died-gun-violence-day-us-year/story?id=97382759/
Only if you count suicides. The countries that don’t have guns still have suicides, so banning guns would not prevent those deaths.
Only if you count suicides. The countries that don’t have guns still have suicides, so banning guns would not prevent those deaths.
That’s like if I was to say “only if you count fast cars. The countries that don’t have as many fast cars still have accidents, so speed limits should be universally abolished.”
Well, actually its not true, if you don’t have access to stuff that kills you basically instantly many people would think a little more before doing that, maybe even go to a therapist.
South Korea has no guns and people manage to jump off bridges just fine
SK has a much higher suicide rate than the US, so maybe the underlying issue should be fixed instead of trying to impose higher barriers to people trying to kill themselves
Even putting pills in blister packs caused a statistically significant drop in OD suicides using OTC drugs.
Turns out that many people just need a bit of resistance to stop them from implementing a permanent solution to a temporary situation.
And yet there is a difference between legitimate accidents and deliberate killings…
Also, your road safety in muricaland is completely ridiculous and the cars that drive on your roads are hazardous as hell, maybe fix that and the rates of death from accidents go down.
I think @Fake4000@lemmy.world made a solid point here.
Nintendo goes after those that make money. That includes ROM sites too. For example, Nintendo didn’t sue Dolphin developers, they told Valve to take down their software. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I am not saying that Nintendo goes only after those that make money but maybe a money papertrail takes away the anonymousness of the internet. Bank accounts makes finding people a whole lot easier.
Nintendo behaves illigaly or at least absolutely amoral. If you make money with your product or not is not up to some other company to decide.
Amorally, probably. Ilegally? No, they are not.
Nintendo suing and pressuring around may be illigal in some countries where they operate… Especially regarding the steam thing.
It is when the product is using their IP to violate copyright laws.
I fully support emulators and pirating, but I don’t lie to myself about it being legal or ethical.
Reverse engineering isn’t a IP violation… And the emulator group isn’t responsible for people using pirated software on it, that pirated stuff would run on the original hard and software as well.
If you read the lawsuit Nintendo is suing because Yuzu acknowledges their software can’t run without the Switch’s decryption keys. Yuzu also has instructions to extract the decryption keys on their website. So Yuzu is not completely reverse engineering how the Switch runs games.
The keys aren’t something you can reverse engineer, they are a “security” feature and make shure that people can only use it when they own a switch and the game…
So what purpose does an emulator server legally speaking? And I don’t think anyone uses their car for accidents.
There have been multiple instances of cars being driven into crowds, accidents is probably not the right word, i should say terrorism.
And emulators are for people who bought a game for a console that broke, so now they play it on PC because they own the game.
especially true for when manufacturers stop supporting the console you invested into, stops making replacement parts, issuing security patches, etc. Having the ability to make, repair and use copies of the games you purchase is critical to digital preservation.
Exactly
I’m very uninformed here, haven’t gamed in a few years. But I’ve got a question- is yuzu software that is run on a rooted Switch device, or similar like a steam deck? Or do you run it on a computer? Or perhaps, it’s all of the above.
Anyway, thanks in advance if someone could give me a high level overview
Steam Deck is just a Linux computer, but it runs on any computer running Linux, Windows, or apparently Android, with capable hardware. It looks like it isn’t ready for Mac yet, though Ryujinx supposedly is.
It doesn’t run on a rooted Switch as far as I’m aware, but I don’t see the point in that. There’s no need to emulate the hardware if you’re actually using the hardware.
Steamdeck(Linux), PC and Android.
Android, eh? Is it meant for phones, or is there a other set of android devices this is for?
It’s mainly meant for desktop I think. I suspect you need a very powerful android
Yuzu, to my knowledge, is PC only.
To get the information you need to use it, you’ll either download it illegally or hack a switch (legally?) To get encryption keys and dump a copy of your game.
PC only implies it’s a windows program, yuzu runs on any x86_64 and ARMv8a or newer device.
What’s the crowd funding site for Yuzu legal fees?
https://www.patreon.com/yuzuteam
If you wish to support us a different way, please join our Discord and talk to bunnei. You may also contact: donations@yuzu-emu.org.
Or you could wait until the EFF commits to representing Yuzu (like they did for youtube-dl) and donate to the EFF at that point
There’s a request on r/yuzu for a GoFundMe, but it has no response from the devs so far.
Or you could wait until the EFF commits to representing Yuzu
Any news on this?
They offer legal aid to high-profile open source cases. So if you want them to notice, raising awareness of Nintendo’s current actions against Yuzu is a good step
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