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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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      Not really. If the internet goes out in our office 100% of our programmers are going home. Doesnt make them bad, the internet is to useful to work without.

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        Exactly, it’s how technological evolution works. We found a much more effective and productive way to work and live, so why would we revert back to the “old days”.

        Also doesn’t mean people taught to use the internet in its full capacity are inferior - they’re just focusing on what is important.

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          For you

          I have looked up the productivity differences in working with and without internet for the programming industry. The main finding is that majority of programmers think that the internet boosts their productivity and collaboration.

          Needles to say, it seems like your argument is focused on yourself rather than the whole industry.

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            I got almost 3 decades of writing software for money. I don’t need stack chatgpt overflow. I know some standard libraries by heart.

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              Guess you just “know” all the new stuff coming out?

              I programmed for a living before stack overflow, and it was just less effective.

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                You can download docs once and refer to them pretty much. You can also download dependencies once and read their source code to figure out questions you may have.

                Like, sure, I need the internet to download new packages and tools and their documentation and stuff. I will concede this. But after that, I can live off the land.

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                  Sure you can and we all had to live without nice things at a certain time, I had the Nintendo DS & Wii doc in physical text form (because NDA and so I guess), with only a handful of helpful people on the Nintendo forum. But that was invaluable, still remember that guy from Team17 helping me out because the audio was bugged in the console.

                  I mean we can all motor through it and spend lots of time figuring it out, I actually like that 😁, but having access to the whole worlds shared knowledge is kind of nice too.

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      the documentation is literally on Internet. Python standard library, MSDN, posgresql, odbc drivers. Everything is online. are you suggesting you memorised your whole stack, and did you printed out ? Granted * some * of it can be downloaded

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        I remember when ‚man 3 printf‘ and such was a thing. Good times, those. Then there’s ‚go doc encoding/json‘ as well. I’m sure other languages have some offline docs

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      I have a mild existential crisis every time the Internet goes down. I have no idea what’s wrong, and I cant use the Internet to find out what’s wrong.

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    ChatGPT Cybersecurity

    So you know how to fix all the security holes the AI left in your codebase, right? Right?