Nintendo is a shady company. When somebody improves their product all they care to do is destroy it and whoever supports it.
Fuck Nintendo
fuck Nintendo and their shitty buisness.
Emulators are not only good for preserving games, they are good for consumers - preserving their acess to games they own.
their “illegal” bullshit is just because they don’t port their games to anything.
Nintendo can eat shit and learn how to port and sell their older titles as well
I pirated BotW and TotK and others
Which made my brother buy a Switch and TotK and Mario Kart and a Nintendo Online subscription and aaaa…
Piracy increases sales, goddammit. Literally free advertising.
I would also like to add that piracy does not equate to a loss in sales.
There are plenty of things I would never spend money on, but I would check/try them out of they were free.
For example, a VR headset. I will never buy one since I get dizzy too easily generally. But, if there was one that I could try for free I’d try it.
So, If im using one at a library, it does not mean that a sale was lost. It just means I find the value of this thing to be less than what you are charging for it.
This is like a CIA Pulitzer. Nintendo could not have made a better endorsement of Yuzu’s performance.
I litterly saw this and proceeded to download yuza
I don’t even want to play any games on it right now I just did it as a middle finger to Nintendo
Same
Oh shit, there’s a working open source switch emulator out there? Thanks Nintendo!
Aaaaaaaand downloaded the source code, Windows Installer, and Linux installer. Thanks again Nintendo, I really can’t express how thankful I am you brought attention to this!
Wanna hear something funny? It works on steam deck
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Yup. Steam Deck is literally the Switch 2.0 at this point. Upscaled graphics, better frame rates, modding capability, etc…
I wouldn’t say that’s a universal truth. Some games perform like shit on Yuzu and others that simply aren’t stable. Yuzu is pretty damn good, but I’ve run into plenty of situations where graphics have lots of glitches, I’m crashing every 20-30 minutes due to a memory leak, etc. E.g. SMTV is one I recently opted to just play on my Switch natively because I got tired of random freezes after battles.
Forgot to mention: controls that don’t suck
You can mod on switch, modding isn’t an advantage
That’s why Nintenfux is suing. They have no other way to be competitive in mobile gaming now.
Can you pair 4 joycons to it too?
It works on Switch as well if you install linux then install it. But performance makes that not worth it
There are two that work pretty well. Yuzu and Ryujinx. A while ago some games only worked on one or the other. Thanks to open source they both improved dramatically.
So instead of making their games more easily accessible and re-releasing old games, which has been proven to reduce piracy and may even be profitable, they just throw money at a lawsuit attacking an emulator?
Don’t forget good hardware too. The switch is an absolutely terrible hand held device. My hands cramp up nearly instantly trying to play on it.
I have purchased BOTW and TOTK for the switch, but I play them on my steam deck with YUZU Waaaay better experience.
Wait, how does that reduce piracy?
Ever heard of a small indie company called Valve?
Having a good service that’s easily accessible and re-releasing games from older consoles (many of which people have been rallying for) = less of an incentive to pirate them. Obv it will still exist, but it’d be in less of a demand. I almost never pirate PC games since the vast majority of the ones I’m interested in are readily accessible, unless it’s from a shitty AAA company like EA.
I haven’t pirated any of these gams And it’s a little bit off topic But damn I would so buy Mario party or Mario tennis or even arms if it wasn’t $60
Like I think the games are cute But I’d rather buy 3 indie games with way more worth in play time then a $60 tennis simulator that I will drop in a week or a party game that I will only use on the rare occasion I’m hanging out with friends
I’m actually kind of happy that Nintendo is shutting down the Wii U and 3ds eShop because now it feels more ethical to pirate all the small $60 games I wanted to play
Hell id gladly spend $30 on many of these games
Tl;Dr these games are not worth $60 and I’m a little salty about it
“Nintendo sues” oh look it’s a day that ends in Y. The only person Nintendo isn’t dead set on suing is Nintendo.
Here’s you 937th remake of Super Mario Bros 2 that you can only rent, have a nice day.
And our online service is absolute trash but you’ll pay anyway to have a legal emulator until we also discontinue that for Super other garbage online service!
Don’t forget that they will hide behind arbitration to avoid paying up for knowing seeking shoddy consoles/controllers.
Oh don’t even get me started. Hall effect has been known since 1879, those JoyCons didn’t use it because it was cheaper to use shitty graphite. They literally went the cheap ass route because they didn’t even care.
That’s not even necessarily the issue. XBox and PS controllers also don’t use Hall effect. I’ve never had an xbox controller drift. You’d have to seriously abuse them for them to break. Nintendo isn’t just cheaping out on the tech but also on the build quality itself. But what do you expect from a company that sells a console that was obsolete when it was released, hardware wise. For the third time.
It’s even worse than that. The only way to back up save files for games like Animal Crossing, which can represent a ton of playtime, is to pay for their online service. The save games aren’t saved to the cartridge like they were with 3ds and you can’t back up saves locally on the SD card either.
Don’t know the website, is this bait?
Honestly, I’m surprised this didn’t happen sooner. Emulating old hardware is one thing, but they have a current vested interest in their most recent console.
Still, Nintendo’s lawyers can rub spurge on their eyes, and I hope the Yuzu devs find a great lawyer (or better yet, are safely hidden behind some kind of digital or geopolitical veil).
safely hidden behind some kind of digital or geopolitical veil
When will people learn that the safest place to develop a Nintendo emulator is Pyongyang?
I guess that depends on your definition of “safe”
Yeah, it has always felt like we had something we couldn’t wish for or expect. And it’s a much better experience than using an actual switch.
Sadly the only surprising thing about this is how long it took for Nintendo to do something, I guess they worked on having as good of a chance as they could.
I did not know this, I will now go see if there is anything worth playing.
Mario + rabbids, pokemon legends, zelda:BOTW/TOTK (pick one they’re both pretty similar and have their pros/cons), Mario Wonder, Mario Odyssey, Pikmin 4, Cadence of Hyrule (zelda spin-off of crypt of the necrodancer), zelda:links awakening remake, Mario rpg remake, and Bayonetta 2 (can also play on wii u emulator, 3 isn’t as good)
TOTK if you were really into nuts and bolts. Otherwise BOTW. 😛
I’ve been playing Mario Wonder and Mario RPG both are great and run very well. I tried BOTW but I think the framerate was capped at 30 and I couldn’t figure out how to increase it
You need a 60fps patch for botw
Good advertising! I just hope the dev gets out of this without consequences and the project lives on.
You will like Mario + Rabbids
FWIW, the Switch is a fucking amazing console. Don’t let the “but it isn’t as powerful as my PS5” bros convince you otherwise. There are top notch games on Switch.
There are, that’s why I am not buying another Switch (my last one bricked itself, lost all my saves), and rather using the Steam Deck
There are some, absolutely. Strategy, jrpg, and 2D stuff especially.
For 3D games with 3D physics, the lack of power is almost always a clear limitation, though. That CPU sucks ass.
You know why I played the games on yuzu? It’s because the joycons suck and they are expensive to replace.
I did the stick drift repair on my own, but the L and R buttons are soldiered to the main board so it can’t be repaired.
I bought a right joycon on its own and then the next week the left joycon had the same issue.
I wasn’t going to spend about $90 for an unreliable controller when an entire steamdeck costs $500.
It really paints the picture that the controllers are way over priced how can they alone be 20% the cost of the entire steamdeck.
If Nintendo made decent joycons, then I would not be using Yuzu.
Additionally, I dumped my own games and keys, so they got their money and through some effort, I got a better experience.
I’d like to add that the joycons were not heavily used either.
Joycon drift is the main reason why I stopped playing my switch.
I’ve been eyeing Yuzu to play games like Pokemon Scarlet and Xenoblade 3 since they both run like shit on the switch and a smooth 60 fps at 4k on Yuzu.
I bought both games at release, I just can’t stand playing at 20 fps.
Unfortunately, PS5 controllers have the same issue. Slightly cheaper, but same exact shitty parts for the joystick. Going to try aftermarket (with serviceable parts) for my next one.
Not for you since you’ve exited the Switch, but for anyone else with stick drift: Gulikit makes replacement hall effect joycon sticks that do not drift. Easy to replace and inexpensive.
Just try not to get fakes that are just the normal garbage with drift
Your situation is not applicable to why the lawsuit exists.
It’s the idiots that pirated and leaked TOTK a week before the release date that gave Nintendo ammunition for this case. As a result, everybody who is using Yuzu legitimately will suffer for it.
Every hacked switch can do it too, but they aren’t going against Atmosphere.
Yuzu did not pirate the game. Other people did. What did Yuzu do that was illegal?
Did the movie studies sue dvd player makers because people ran pirated movies on them?
Why didn’t you just get a better controller? You would have saved yourself a lot of time, effort, and probably money.
I’m not in the US, so the options I had here were either expensive or didn’t have any reviews.
I’ve been wanting a steamdeck for some time and that is what pushed me to get one.
A lot of modern controllers are really ass tbh. I still use a wired usb xbox 360 controller. Doesn’t work on Switch without modding/hacking/emulating.
You are stuck two decades ago in time. There are plenty of good to great controllers. Shit, there’s multiplatform controllers that work perfectly and have all the bells and whistles and gyros that first party controllers have.
True, I bet there good ones out there, but I have no need to replace it yet.
But you’ll complain about using twenty year old technology anyways, and make up nonsense about current tech. Ok.
I’m complaining about manufacturers cheaping out, not the age of the tech I’m using.
Time to sell my switch, i only have it because of yuzu.
Considering that the keys are not unique per console, it’s kind of weird keeping the Switch around just for Yuzu. I mean you can get key dumps online and those work the same since they’re all identical.
Only real reason to do it is because Yuzu devs said so, and that’s not a great reason because they don’t have any authority to say so, nor any way of knowing if people are actually doing that.
Yuzu struggled running zelda on my pc, zo i bought a switch to play zelda again.
I’d think a ryzen 7, 64gb ram and 3070 shouldn’t have a problem with a switch game but i might be wrong because i don’t know the specs of the switch.
I have a Ryzen 5600G (with Radeon Graphics built in) and 16 GiB of RAM, and it runs fine (with a few hiccups during cutscenes). I’m also running Linux, though.
Ah, the pains of emulation. It took a long time for Dolphin(Gamecube) to be usable. I always thought modern consoles had less hardware quirks and were more “plug and play” than consoles of yesteryear. And that emulating them would be easier. I guess I was wrong.
Which Zelda?
Ehh the newest one, totk if i’m not mistaken.
Just found out about yuzu today, wasn’t aware you could get the key dumps online. How can I find sources for those?
You can usually find it by googling or searching for “prod.keys for yuzu” and you’ll find links. Beware of scams though, only download the prod.keys and title.keys, don’t use pre-packaged emulators from these sources, only use the official ones with the keys from them.
Thanks a bunch!
I got a link from a friend here on lemmy that looks to contain everything needed to use Yuzu (emulator/keys/firmware and mod stuff). Haven’t had a chance to test it out yet, but it looks to be complete.
I wonder if they ever realise how much money they could make by releasing PC versions of their games.
Tears of the Kingdom is great, but I can’t help but think how good it would look running in full 4K 60fps on a 55" OLED, with a controller that doesn’t disconnect every five minutes.
As if Nintendo would actually do this. They’d do it like other Japanese developers 15 years ago: windowed 1280x720, no graphics settings, no keyboard support, no quit-to-desktop button.
Playing Persona 5 Strikers now and I’ve just gotten into the habit of opening the Steam overlay and hitting Exit Game. Yes, Atlus, very cute and stylish menu animations, but please let me quit your games within 15 seconds.
no quit-to-desktop button.
When Elden Ring released a patch that added quit to desktop I was so happy. Except I never used it, Because I was so used to not having it.
Well at least Durante will have something to fix in his spare time.
I don’t need to imagine it. I own the game and it looks like crap compared to it running on yuzu on PC. 4K 60fps is the way. Can’t go back.
Any tips for eliminating the stutter, or increasing the smoothness of the emulation? I’ve got an i7-12700k, 4090, and 64GB of ram and it seems to struggle a bit.
I think that’s just the shader caching being rendered isn’t it? I know totk has some caching that can be pre downloaded but I believe it still is cached when you are running the game. I think it stabilizes after a bit but I had trouble getting ryujinx and yuzu working so I opted for the cemu (wii I) route.
Thinking about it, Nintendo is now the only company without PC versions of their games, the only one that thinks they compete with PC.
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On the contrary, I suspect they don’t port their games to PC because they don’t think they compete with PC.
That might change with the prevalence of the Steam Deck and other gaming targeted handheld PCs.
but then nintendo wouldn’t be able to shove tons of 6-7 year old hardware down our throats. (the 1st gen’s processor is even older)
i literally own a switch, but getting that fucking thing to work with my display/audio setup is a pain. just to get 1080p at 30fps.
no thanks, i’d rather play it at 1440p at a more stable framerate, with a controller of my choice, with the ability to load mods.
Going off on a slight tangent, but what display/audio setup do you have that the Switch doesn’t work with? It’s just HDMI, like everything else these days.
i’m using it at my desk where i have one USB-DAC for my speakers and one for my headphones connected to my PC.
that means i have to switch my monitor from DP to HDMI every time i want to play a game (using samsung’s nipple tech), as well as either running my speakers through a splitter cable hooked up the wrong way to get PC and switch audio, or have the switch on my speakers while having the PC on headphones.
way too much hassle, plus i can lose my cursor on the right screen where the switch is, as well as having to blindly drag apps from there as they start. plus i completely miss incoming desktop messages.
and yes, i watch youtube while playing games. that’s why i need PC audio.
A controller disconnecting every 5 minutes is not Nintendo like. I have never had any issues with wireless Nintendo controllers. Not on my own system or others.
Everything else is true.
Usually I’d agree, but the Joycons are not their finest hour at all.
They’re just unreliable enough for me to be unable to trust them. Connected to the Switch, they’re fine.
Ye. The control sticks issue is beyond stupid. I switched to hall effect sticks on two pairs. Its crazy you have to be able to disassemble and rebuild your joy-cons if you want them for more than 2 years max.
Nintendo made it hell getting them fixed. No way I have the receipt for a consol I bought over the counter 3-4 years ago. Also there is a 5 year guarantee on them where I live, so why would i even need the receipt anyway. Just fix your trash Nintendo.
with a controller that doesn’t disconnect every five minutes.
Yeah the joycons are terrible but Ive never had an issue with the pro controller.
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Nintendo is a toy company. They sell plastic. For the last thirty-odd years, video games have been their primary means of doing so.
I think they started with cards. Poker and other card games. I remember that they still sell them, at least the hanafuda cards.
They don’t care about that, they want to move their consoles, that’s why they’re completely exclusive.
Chances are you don’t have every other platform and buy games for your Nintendo console.
Anybody can hate on them, but they know business.
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You’re not wrong. Nintendo is a dirtbag, greedy as fuck company. They make some excellent games, but they’re the epitome of financial parasites.
It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.
Or anything by megacorps in general really
It’s impossible to steal from a billionaire.
